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U18s to win the league |
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07/01 |
Congratulations to the youth
team for getting off the bottom of the table. The only way is up.
Keep working lads.
Steve |
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10/01 |
Finally the lads have won a
game in the league. Lets hope they can carry it on. They had a
good win on Wednesday night in that new youth cup. Maybe they can go
all the way. Some good goals by the new centre midfielder (Terry).
Maybe things are starting to change under new coach Taviner? All the
best for the rest of the season lads.
Season ticket holder |
|
13/01 |
I think you need to look at
the players that were there on Thursday. The majority are players who
have been signed up from other clubs just for this tournament. No doubt the
Club will try and keep them for next season, but where's the attraction if
they are playing in Division Two of Hampshire and not in the top flight?
Rank Outsider |
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14/01 |
I see rank outsider has no
faith. I have confidence in the lads and would bet on them staying up.
Steve |
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14/01 |
Looking at the players in the
match last Thursday, only Joe Terry is not directly connected with the Club
just to correct Outsider.
Billy's boots |
|
14/01 |
I think you are right Rank
Outsider. They need to try and stay in the top league for Borough's
reputation. Those new players that were brought in can't stay next
year as they are all to old (18/18+). there are a lot of youngsters in the
youth team. Maybe this is why they aren't doing so well? I
think the players they had last year have to play to help the team out or
not.
Season ticket holder |
|
16/01 |
I was very pleased with
Thursday night's game for the youth team. Two players stood out
mostly. I think the big man Cal Laycock and the new centre mid Joe
Terry did very well and helped the youth team to a good win. Hopefully they
can carry on good form at Winchester away. Come on you Boro'.
Gav |
|
17/01 |
I think a few of you have
missed my point. The players you saw on Thursday have been signed up to
play in this one cup only. They will all be playing for their regular teams
for league matches. It goes to show you what local talent is being
missed out on at Boro' because the outsiders who run it aren't aware of
what's on the club's doorstep.
Rank Outsider |
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17/01 |
Could Someone please tell me
when the youth are next at home in the "youth cup" during the week.
Their game away at Winchester got called off so I'm wondering whether that's
been rescheduled.
Season ticket holder |
|
17/01 |
No news on the rearrangement
of the Winchester game. According to my information, the U18s next
game in the BGB Youth Cup is on Thursday 24th January against Fleet Town.
All the fixtures are on the U18s page.
Site Manager |
|
19/01 |
Actually the team you saw
Thursday consisted of only two players who are not currently at the Club -
Joe Terry and centre forward Steven Cammack. Cal Laycock plays for the
reserves but has work commitments and the goalie Pete Braisier has now been
transferred from Moneyfields. Also Rank Outsider, there is local
talent on our door step but the late appointment of our youth team setup
meant most players had already gone elsewhere. Just wait and see who
turns up next year.
Inside knowledge |
|
19/01 |
Rank outsider - that is no way
to encourage what is honestly a bunch of kids out there trying to keep
Boro's reputation alive. Most of the kids are still only 15 turning 16
this year and for them to be playing against 18 year olds and putting in
this kind of effort cannot be justified with sarcastic remarks. I will
put my mortgage on those lads showing the passion and desire needed to stay
in the league. Up The Boro'.
Keep the faith |
|
22/01 |
Keep the Faith - I'm sure the
youngsters are doing their best and my comments weren't meant to be
sarcastic or a dig at them. But at the end of the day they are struggling
to stay in the top flight. So it's no good Inside Knowledge saying "just
wait to see who turns up next year". Can the Club really expect to
entice youngsters to a second Division club when other clubs such as VT,
Moneyfields and what looks like being Locks Heath and Winchester will be
playing in Division One?
Rank Outsider |
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22/01 |
Rank Outsider I'm sure your
comments will inspire all the kids to come flocking to the Club, I'm
sure they will look at this and say what a good Club and the fans get right
behind you! I'm sure the people looking after the kids are already
making plans for the lads that stay and the new players they want and if
they do go down I'm sure they will bounce back better and stronger.
Just keep supporting them with more positive comments.
New fan |
|
22/01 |
And Rank Outsider, can a club
really expect to entice new up and coming young players with such
disappointing comments from its so called fans? Every youngster has to
start somewhere and we all know you can't instantly magic up a football
team. Football is about encouraging players - not about putting
ridiculous comments on a website knocking what confidence they have managed
to build up.
Football genius |
|
22/01 |
Rank outsider, you mention
other clubs. I'm sure what with going on across the water a few
players would jump at the chance to play at Boro' instead of Moneyfields.
It's the status of the club not the league that entices players.
Winning is secondary to producing players for the first team.
Knowledge |
|
23/01 |
Knowledge - how can you talk
about Club status enticing players and winning coming second to producing
players for the first team when we have another thread on this site slating
the first team manager and the way the Club is run? Apart from Manna,
who also got disillusioned and moved on, how many youth team players have
ever gone on to play first team football?
Rank Outsider |
|
23/01 |
Off the top of my head - Josh
Guise, Rob Pittman and that's without really thinking. Going back
further people still speak with admiration of Nicky Goater who spend many
years at the Club after playing for the U18s.
Site Manager |
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23/01 |
Knowledge you say winning is
secondary to producing players for the first team but winning breeds
confidence and confidence makes a better player better. Players want
to join winning sides.
The Shadow |
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24/01 |
Site Manager. I think you'll
find that Josh Guise was a Fleetlands player who came to the Club for one
season as a youth player before going back to Fleetlands. He only came to
Boro' when he had a falling out with Fleetlands and now he's at Fareham. To
me that says that status means nothing if players aren't given a chance. I
also don't recall Pittman playing for any of the Youth teams either. He was
at Moneyfields up until this season.
Rank Outsider |
|
24/01 |
I'll stand corrected on Rob
Pittman if you are right. It was my understanding he was an U18s
player though. Josh has played for both clubs (Boro' and Fleetlands)
and I was at Gosport for more than a season having played for the U16s under
Dougie Leask when he first came to prominence with something like 300 goals
in six games! Whether you can claim Fleetlands were responsible for
his talent and we pinched him or not is another matter.
Site Manager |
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24/01 |
Lloyd Oneil played for Gosport
Borough in under 7, 8, 9 and 10's teams before Portsmouth School Of
Excellence signed him and he left the Boro to play for Pompey alone.
He stayed at Portsmouth until he was released at under 16's then joined
Cambridge United as a scholar. He returned home in time for this
season and joined Boro' and after some very impressive performances for the
reserves and under 18's he was promoted to the first team where he has had
to wait his turn but when given has had some good performances scoring three
goals. He has also made the England colleges team for this year.
This boy has tremendous talent and is one that started at Boro' and
hopefully will have a long and successful career with us.
Outside |
|
24/01 |
Site Manager - This is Rob
Pittmans first season with the Club but he is playing for both the Youth and
Reserves. No matter where these young players come from, it goes back
to my original point which was misconstrued by some on this stream. These
local young players are what the Club wants and needs, but are not coming to
the Club, or if they do, they're not staying because they see their chances
are limited. For a player, status means nothing if you can see that
you won't get a chance to play first team football. As a result the
Youth team and for that matter, the reserves are not as strong as they could
be. Their league positions quite clearly show you that. Reserves now
seventh and Youth seventh of eight.
Rank Outsider |
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24/01 |
I don't think you understand
my point. The only responsibility the youth team has is to produce
players for the first team. Players will always want to play for a
"bigger" club. Take Robbie Pittman. He was a player well thought
of at Moneyfields but chose to play for his home club even though he had
been successful at Moneyfields. Whether he becomes a player remains to
be seen, and I for one aren't convinced yet, but winning will never precede
producing players.
Knowledge |
|
25/01 |
In reply to Rank Outsider's
comment, Aaron Wilson came to the club as a 16 year old and played for the
U18's, the reserves and is now under contract with the first team.
Biker |
|
25/01 |
Over the years there have been
several Youth players that have progressed to the first team - Andy Smith,
Stuart Hensman, Nicky Goater, Ian Ford, Danny Thomson, Danny Jeffries, Ian
Rew. I apologise for the ones I will have left out. John Wilson,
Aaron Wilson from the "new ones" and Joshy Guise was in the youth side for a
complete season but they all come from somewhere else at some time.
In the know |
|
25/01 |
I think a few Boro' fans are
more concerned about the Club rather than the players themselves.
Arguing about if they are going to stay up or not and who plays for better
teams will not help them. I'd like to see the lads progressing,
especially the younger lads and hope to see them winning soon and start
progressing up the ranks at Boro'.
Harry Carr |
|
26/01 |
Who could possibly forget
Craig Ancell?
Craig Ancell |
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26/01 |
Craig Ancell? Nope -
doesn't ring any bells there!
Site Manager |
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26/01 |
There have been several youth
players that have gone on to do well at Boro'. Some have left, but some
have also come back as better players. Boro' has always been seen as the
main Club in the area so why shouldn't they come and go when they feel ready
to challenge for a first team place? As long as they are getting the chance
when they do return. No matter what with Boro', when you have been a
part of it, you will always have an interest in it.
Dougie Leask - Chairman Locks Heath FC |
|
27/01 |
Some rather positive and
negative comments on this matter. The present U18s are a very young
group. To back up "In the know" you can add the Juryeff brother's Gary
and Ian, Steve Morris, Andy Lowman, Steve Ingman, Tony Stares, Steve Bury
and Andy Bye (though Andy mostly played at Fareham and Steve Bury/Ian
Juryeff forged professional career's) but they all played for the youth and
first team. A youth team is a vital part of the Club. Also at
this level players sometimes follow managers/coaches. It also not
uncommon for players to play at other clubs and come back to Gosport.
Richie Moran and Dave Walters moved from Fareham and even Ritchie Colburt
played at Winchester. Keep up the good work Bucko, Ady and Tav.
Billy's boots |
|
27/01 |
Just to comment on the game on
Wednesday night - I thought the boys played really well. They kept the
ball well and scored two really good goals. They were unlucky not to
win the match but I can definitely see an improvement on the pitch every
week. Did any one else watch the match? If so, what did you
think?
Season ticket holder |
|
28/01 |
If you thought Wednesday
night's game was good you should have seen the lads at Christchurch!
All the lads worked extremely hard for each other and were really unlucky to
come away with a 1-0 defeat. Our youth team is getting better and
better and confidence is coming back every week. I can say now that
they will stay in Division One and they will be challenging for the league
title next year!
Gosport follower |
|
28/01 |
Yer Wednesday night was good
except the last five minutes when the boys lost concentration at the back
and let Fleet back into it. Also looking positive, both of our goals
were very good goals. I was also surprised to see Callum on the bench
Wednesday. I thought him and Steve do very well together up top.
He comes down to strengthen the youth team from reserves and gets put on
bench. I'm not sure what the thinking was for that. Have youth
got another home game this coming Thursday as well in the cup?
Season ticket holder |
|
28/01 |
Rank outsider - do you really
expect for any of the youth to progress if the reserve team manager and
first team manager are never at games and never talk to the likes of Ady
Camp and Dave Taviner who watch the boys train and play every week and ask
how each of the boys are progressing. What's the point in raising
local talent if you are just going to bring in players not based in this
area to play first team football? Also Locks Heath are the team with
many Gosport based players playing for them. Ben Hardie, Steve Sones,
Steve Cammack, Barry Stelling to name a few who should really be at The
Boro' because they are good enough.
Inside knowledge |
|
29/01 |
Just thought that I would drop
you a line to inform you of some of the players who came from the youth set
up in the past. Steve Berry (went on to Portsmouth), Andy Lowman, Andy
Bye, my brother Ian and me. A strong youth policy is the best way
forward. Let's see some local talent again. The likes of
Mahoney, Boswell, Coulbert, Stares and myself were all local lads wanting to
play for their town. There is talent out there!
Gary Juryeff |
|
29/01 |
Inside Knowledge - You have
confirmed my point from previous. Players will only stay if they see an
opportunity to progress. As soon as a good player goes, even at youth
level, it weakens the Club. This has to be dealt with by the Club, from the
top. This is why I made my point about the youth leaving to go elsewhere.
Looking at the league you can see that Locks Heath are doing well, but if
the boys you mention are all local, then they should be playing at Boro'.
Is it because they didn't see an opportunity to progress and have gone
elsewhere.
Rank Outsider |
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29/01 |
Gary - Valid point re: strong
youth policy. The structure of youth football has changed
substantially at The Boro' over the last ten years. At one time Boro'
had the pick of the local youth players with many playing in the Gosport and
Fareham school's rep side. Nowadays, Boro' youth at every age competes
with a multitude of other clubs locally to attract players from the age of 7
up. Teams such as Spartan Colts and College Youth are incredibly strong
locally and actively seek the stronger players. Additionally, due to a
number of factors including parental and peer pressure etc., many of the
talented players tend to go elsewhere in pursuit of the stronger clubs.
If you study results in the paper on a Monday night, the likes of
Moneyfields and H&W Youth also attract the stronger players from the local
area. Boro' youth's ethos is however a little different from other
clubs in that they prefer to give children the chance to play footy
irrespective of their level of ability. This ethos, right or wrong, is
reflected in the current U18 side as very few of those players emerged
directly from the Boro's youth setup pre U18. In fact many of them
came from a Boro' break away youth football team called Gosport United.
Additionally, many of the areas talented youngsters are at Locks Heath
because that's where Boro' Youth's only FA Level 2 Coach headed for at the
start of this season.
Lionel |
|
29/01 |
Inside Knowledge - I agree
with your sentiments about the first team and reserves not getting a sniff
because the senior managers don't pay any attention to them. This isn't the
case at Locks Heath. All of the youth who want to play first team and
reserves have been given their chance and have taken it. Barry Snelling and
Bruce Suraci have been playing regularly for the first team. Steve Cammack
will get his chance this week as he's just come back from injury but he's
been a regular in the reserves along with Steve Sones and Elliot Fairweather,
before he joined the Navy. Ben Hardie has been playing for the first team
at Fleetlands. It's not just about the club, it's also about where their
opportunities are. Apart from having a good overall team, some of the youth
teams success at the top of their league is down to the players being
developed, through Saturday football. As Chairman at Locks, I make it
my point to watch the youth and keep the managers informed of players
progress. But to be honest, I don't really have to, as the managers take an
interest themselves.
Dougie Leask - Chairman Locks Heath FC |
|
29/01 |
Season ticket holder thanks
for your support - it is appreciated. We have a game on Thursday at
Privett 7.45 against Winchester City. On Sunday we played Christchurch and
lost 1-0. Their team had seven players who play regular for their
first and reseve sides. We had seven players that started who are
under 16 and still at school. They have been congratulated by opposing
managers on how they have improved since the first time we played each
other. This was never to be an easy season considering the late
situation the youth had been left in so please be patient as it is our
intention to try and attract more of the better younger players in our town
back to their club.
Ady |
|
30/01 |
Lionel, I think you have just
highlighted a part of the problem. Having an ethos of being there to just
provide football for kids at a club like Boro' is wrong to a large degree.
In my day at Borough Youth the philosophy was that up to the age of 13/14
that was fine, but from U14 onwards the Club should be looking to develop
players for the Senior Club. That is the reason why the affiliation with
the Senior Club was setup in the first place by Steve Wakley 10 years ago.
Prior to that the Youth were known as Gomer and no different to any other
club in the area. Good players want to play with good players for good
teams. The name of the club is irrelevant to them - which is why the likes
of Spartan Colts and the likes produce some good teams that compete better
than Boro'. If the Club wants to have youth players coming through
into the Under 18's, then they need to catch them a lot younger than they
are by getting back to a winning attitude in the youth setup.
Dougie Leask - Chairman Locks Heath FC |
|
30/01 |
Take a look at the players who
have played for the first team at Horndean this season - Jimmy Cuthbert,
Ryan Faulkner, Tony Harrop, James Knight, Brynley Mckie, Jack Pilgrim, Adam
Rudling, Robin Stocks, Loza Wall and Rory Williams. Why do the young
players go to a rubbish club like Horndean?
Ex-youth player |
|
30/01 |
The lads are finally starting
to play well. They played well against Fleet Town but a lack of
concentration at the back let them down. They also seem to have a bit
of pace down the right flank and left flank now does anyone no there names?
If Borough continue to play like this the future looks bright.
Spectator |
|
30/01 |
Lionel, valid points but Boro'
Youth do still have a Level 2 coach in the set up. I attended a
reserve team game before Christmas and got speaking to a senior club
official about the game. I commented on the quality of the team and
that a number of youth team players were there. His comment to me was
that nobody in this team is good enough for first team football and will
never be good enough. Now if this is the attitude to encourage local
talent no wonder Pikey is signing kids from else where.
Pikey's stalker |
|
30/01 |
After the posting above from
Pikey's stalker, I have to comment that it is not the Club officials who
pick the first team. Pikey picks the team so if he is alerted to
someone good enough to cut it in the Southern League and feels they can do a
job I am sure he will use them. Lads like the two Wilsons (John and
Aaron) have had to be very patient before getting runs in the team.
Site Manager |
|
30/01 |
Good to see supporters think
the youth team have improved. Especially as the team was put together
very late. Interesting to see the players that have come through the
youth team over the years. Who knows in a years time we could add
Rudd, Rolfe, Camp, Wilkins, Pigford, Potter and Pittman.
New fan |
|
31/01 |
The Club's future with the
youth team is in good hands with Ady and Tav. The lads will learn a
great deal from them and that will only be good for the Club. I played
for the youth team all those years ago and went on to play nearly 400 first
team games. Who knows, there might be another one in the current youth
team who can do that also. Good luck to the youth team and Ady and Tav.
Manna |
|
31/01 |
Just to let you guys know I
have been reading this column for a while and it seems that you have no idea
of what youth football is about. Enjoying it is the main aim and this
is probably best achieved by winning games - wich we have been doing
recently. Over the past couple of games I have had the luxury of
seeing the game from the sidelines as I am having surgery on my knee and I
feel we are progressing very well. With Dave Taviner on board we are
getting the best coaching in the area and the coaching badges to be frank
don't count for **** when it comes to coaching lads. As for the first
team and reserves I can support the lack of progress. I made a couple
of appearances for the reserves and feel I performed well and had a run of
seven consecutive games. However I did get the run around from
Bemerton Heath's first team forward but I'm 16 and have learned from my
experience. But after that game I was not included in the reserves
again with no explanation as to why I was dropped and this, for a Southern
League club, is not good enough. If the manager felt I was not good
enough at least he could have had the bottle to tell me instead of ignoring
me for the rest of the season. Well sorry for ending on a sour note
but I will be cheering the lads on from the bench and hope we can pick a few
points up in the league and progress in this midweek cup competition.
Up the Boro'.
Aaron Camp - youth team player |
|
01/02 |
Aaron well done for saying
that mate. Totally agree with you. At least you had the balls to
say it and put your name to it. Well done and I hope your knee gets
better soon.
Manna |
|
05/02 |
I have noticed other the last
four or five weeks that they are starting to leave out one or two senior
players. The players are on bench or just sometimes not even involved.
I think they need to play these senior players to help the team strive their
league position. They are sometimes involved during the mid-week games
but not on a Sunday. Why is this?
Season ticket holder |
|
06/02 |
The only way up is with Dave
Taviner. I hear managers at Moneyfields are free so surly Dave will
speak to them as they have won the lot over the years and could bring talent
to The Boro'.
Outsider |
|
07/02 |
The only senior U18s player
that has played all season on a Sunday is Lloyd O'Neil. At the
beginning of the season there were a few more but they left for various
reasons. Lloyd has not played on Sundays or midweek recently because
he has been serving a ban which should be up soon. For the midweek cup
games new U18s players have been brought in to play in this cup only.
The new players play for other teams on Sundays.
In the know |
|
07/02 |
Lloyd has served out his
suspension now and played for the first team at Fleet on Tuesday night.
Site Manager |
|
07/02 |
Free to good home. 14
youth footballers, five with Wessex Premier experience, five with Wessex
Combination experience, six successive league winners. If interested
contact Moneyfields Football Club.
The shadow |
|
14/02 |
Why are we looking towards
Moneyfields to bring in fresh talent? We have the best in Dave Taviner,
Ady Camp and Mike Buxton. The players love them and have the utmost
respect for the men. Why should we be bringing in these managers if
their side only narrowly beat ours in the previous meeting - and this was
right at the start of the season. Just give the guys in charge a
chance and stop acting like Newcastle fans who want instant success because
the youth is about nurturing players not winning masses of trophies!
Why why why |
|
23/02 |
A great win against Winchester
and what a player we have in Lloyd O'Neil. Not only did he run the
midfield he scored the equaliser and made the next two. What a wonderful run
and sublime pass for the third goal. This player has tremendous talent
and hopefully a great career with Boro'! How did they get on against
Fleet?
Impressed supporter |
|
25/02 |
The Boro' won 3-2 against
Fleet and Lloyd O'Neil scored a hattrick.
In the know |
|
25/02 |
See Sunday's result? Why
bother putting uninformed responses on here? Moneyfields were so
impressive using only first years. Lloyd O'Neil was non existent and
you can see why Rob Pitman was considered as not required by this side.
Can't believe they have sacked Fred Willett. Get him now I say.
Loyal |
|
26/02 |
Moneyfields have a great youth
manager and squad that have all been told they can leave. Got nothing
to do with talent but politics! There isn't a player in Hampshire
that Fred Willett doesn't know so get him over here.
Told you so |
|
26/02 |
Why look to Moneyfields?
I will tell you why - as a South Hants Glass side they won the league six
times out of six. This season at U18s they already have one cup final,
a semi and a quarter and they have the best youth players around this area.
It was proved on Sunday - everyone talks about Lloyd O'Neil but what about
Moneys forward Liam Jerram? An all round better player. Yes I
agree the way forward is with Tavs but at least talk to Fred and his
assistant as both can bring good players to wherever they go and rumour is
now they all might go to the club down the road. I can't believe
Moneyfields have sacked them both and their lads.
A football fan |
|
27/02 |
Lets get things straight -
Fred wasn't sacked from Moneyfields FC. He was simply asked to
progress and manage the reserves but he wasn't prepared to do this.
Granted he is more knowledgeable than most in the county and will be a asset
to whatever club gets him. Just a word on Liam Jeram - he may be
potential, but cant play on Saturdays! What good is that? Has
been selected twice for the reserves and has called on a matchday at half
one to pull out!
Monies man |
|
27/02 |
Boro's team on Sunday was made
up of one U18, one U17 and the rest were all U16s as this has been the case
for most of the season. The team was put together very late and over
the next season will show its worth. Moneyfields had at least two U18s
and majority of the rest were U17s. From Sunday's game, Liam Jeram
looked good and Lloyd didn't have the best game but the lad is allowed an
off day. He had already played three games for the U18s in the cup
that week and was on the bench for the first team the day before! Lets not
compare players but enjoy the local talent we have around the area.
Boro' fan |
|
28/02 |
Yes get them all to come to
Gosport, win everything for three years as a reserve/youth side and make
them think they have a future at the club. Then sign big money players
instead who are not that good, chop and change the players and bring more
and more in whilst the youngsters go and make reputations at other clubs.
Having a strong youth/reserve set up at Gosport is great - the future of the
Club you would think. But look what happened just last year to the
best reserve and youth set up going and ask the question, will it happen
again?
Ex |
|
28/02 |
Monies man got it wrong.
Fred was asked to help with the reserves and politics took the youth job off
him. I am a close friend and a Boro' fan. Fred said he is not
interested in any club, only Moneyfields and wishes to stay and bring more
talent to them.
Outsider |
|
28/02 |
Monies man - perhaps with your
knowledge you may be able to tell me how many youth team players play for
the first and reserve teams on a regular basis as surely it is about
development of potential not just about winning trophies.
Adc |
|
29/02 |
Monies Man - was Fred asked to
manage the Monies ressies with who he liked as number one or was he told he
had to help the current managers that they have there already in charge and
be number three? What is wrong with two youth teams - one in Division
One and the other in Division Three for a season then they all move up in
the following season so the team in Division Three moves into Division One
stronger and a year older and can compete. Just look at Boro's youth
side. Not a bad side but young.
A fan |
|
29/02 |
Daniel Wooden and Alex Shepard
are both regulars. Along with that two have played for the first and
are regulars in the reserves along with five other regulars. Fred was
told he would have control of the reserves next year but declined. As
for staying with Monies, Fred has already told the Board he has resigned
and my friend who plays for Fred expects him to move on!
Monies man |
|
29/02 |
I am sick of all the talk
about me and teams. I have just learned about all this, I am at
Moneyfields and wish to stay on.
Fred Willett |
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29/02 |
As this thread no longer seems
to be about Boro's U18s and has become purely speculation over the future of
someone who is not even part of Gosport Borough Football Club, this thread
is now closed.
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